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| The Musicians' Thread; Discuss the joys of playing here. | |
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| Cuttlefish | Oct 1 2007, 04:38 PM Post #16 |
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The Dresden Dolls! Oh, some of their songs aren't that difficult to play. I still have trouble playing with both my hands (when they are playing in different speeds and such) but I can play a couple of Dresden songs, such as 'Missed Me', and 'Slide'. They're simple yet beautiful and fun to play.
That's true, yes. I still don't know if I'm 'strong' (in lack of a better term) enough to begin now. It requires a lot of will-power and I don't know if I can handle the first months - if not years - of 'failure' (again, lacking a better term) |
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| Alia Atreides | Oct 1 2007, 09:17 PM Post #17 |
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It must be a universal...when we I saw other schools and stuff, the bands were always bigger--and the one year I participated in a music festival for central Mass (my first taste of an audition...made it, but would have done better had I not effed up the C and G scales...and yes, those are the two easiest for a viola...I'm dreadful under that sort of pressure), the band was huge. I think the orchestra had something like...fourty people maybe (and about a third were wind, brass, and percussion), and the band easily had at least 60 students. I was shocked they could fit that many people on the stage.
Or...you take viola, where that's not expected. The viola physically is too large in order to do that, unless you've got a long neck, a really strong long neck with good muscles, and with the viola there is no set "full size" like the violin, so it...just doesn't work so well.
Being a musician seems for some to require a certain level of maturity--I'll use me for example. I started on violin when I was six, which is arguably...well it's a good age to start if you have the skill and talent to be the next Itzhak Perlman, and I'd say that my dedication to learning the instrument for a year or so was good, but after that (and I partially blame some of this on the fact that we went through something like three instructors the first year, because once we found one, they kept moving away...didn't realize that I was *that* bad of a student  ) I was trying to cut corners off of my practice time and do anything I could to get out of playing the violin.But now that I'm in college and stuff, I actually enjoy taking out the viola or violin and "fiddling" around with it, and I'd like to think that were I to ever resume taking lessons that I would be more serious about it, and more serious about learning it. But starting out with the violin, they're not going to just throw everything at you all at once. When I stated, I didn't use the bow, didn't do anything but play on the open strings (no fingers on them), and just did pizzicato (plucking the strings). In those initial stages it's more about getting the feel for how the violin is held, and how it responds, and familiar with the basic notes. Now, like I said, I started this when I was younger, so...I don't know if all instructors will teach this the same way (you have to take some considerations for kids who are still learning the alphabet, and who really can't read written stuff, let alone read music), but even if they start you with the bow, they're probably not going to immediately expect you to be able to do the fingerings and get them straight off the bat. Learning where to put your fingers and knowing is something that can take years to get it precisely correct (and for a while they'll let you cheat--by putting down a tape so you know where it is). |
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| Stormy Lass | Dec 12 2007, 10:38 PM Post #18 |
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OKay, I'm way out of the loop here (and way out of my league with you guys), but after six weeks of guitar lessons (once a week, give me a break), I can read musc properly - which I couldn't before - and I can play a handful of really, really simple songs! Go me!  But I've decided I'm sticking to my bass guitar, which I could play to some degree before, and I'm now getting better at. I just like it better, the sound just sweeps me away. And none of those pesky chords, either. I just can't get the hang of those buggers. But I can play my bass! 
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| Coldmetal | Dec 16 2007, 05:56 PM Post #19 |
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Mmm... I'm a drummer. I like to think I'm pretty good. My friend's band is making an album (Which is taking a really long time), and I've sat in a few times for their drummer since he coudln't keep up with the music. I'm no Neil Peart, but am I good? I think. I'm also a bassist, but not really any good. I never saw the importance of music lessons, especially for drums. Just start out playing your own songs. Once you get a few you can play any song. |
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| Alia Atreides | Dec 17 2007, 12:01 AM Post #20 |
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Well, I won't speak for the drums, but I think with string instruments, at least a few lessons are helpful (string instrument like violin, viola, cello, string bass). It's going to be easier if you have a musical background, but it's really beneficial to have someone sitting there correcting you when you are holding the bow wrong, or to correct your technique for vibrato (which I...well I can do it, just not in the purely "correct" form). |
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| Stormy Lass | Dec 17 2007, 12:33 AM Post #21 |
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That's true Alia - and I would have to agree that lessons are a big help in any case, and you SHOULD be able to read music, no matter what - Stevie Ray Vaughan was an extremely rare exception, folks.
 But as for correct positioning and playing techniques... I really think that's more important with classical music and instruments. Especially if you're pursuing it as a career, like in an orchestra or something. But if you're just trying to play with your garage rock band, then I think it's more about figuring out what's comfortble for you, what you prefer as far as your sound goes, that sort of thing. I'm obvously a long way off from either, but at least I've learned to read the music... To some degree... I'm a little dyslexic, though, so I'm having some issues. I am getting better. |
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