What did Davy do?

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What did Davy do?; Why was he charged with his duty?
Topic Started: Jul 26 2007, 10:04 PM (540 Views)
Choccie	Jul 26 2007, 10:04 PM Post #1
Smuggler Posts: 637 Group: Cabin 6 Member #53 Joined: March 17, 2006	Okay, I may have already known the answer to this but it occurred to me whilst watching AWE just now (erm, in a cinema, of course... just a rather exclusive homepirated-shaped cinema... :angel:) that as far as I'm aware we're never actually told the reason for the charge he is given. So why did he have to ferry souls in the first place? Was it just because he dared to love a heathen god, or something else? I've got that niggling feeling I already know the answer, or that I should know it, so anyone care to put it at ease?



pirategirl0306	Jul 26 2007, 10:29 PM Post #2
Navigator Posts: 1,818 Group: Admin Member #78 Joined: March 25, 2006	Well, there may be more to it than this, but the best reason I've got right is now is that Calypso asked him to. And I guess since he was so much in love with her, he agreed. Why, I'm not really sure, but people do crazy things when they're in love. (10 points if you know what movie that's a quote from. Which, now that I think about it, is a rather related movie in some ways.)



Alia Atreides	Aug 24 2007, 08:57 PM Post #3
Journeyman Craftswoman Posts: 2,006 Group: Graphics Member #12 Joined: March 14, 2006 Chosen Theme Fan Art Web Browser Iceweasel	I thought I'd sort of revive this thread a bit since it is interesting--I think as well as PG, that Davy agreed to the duty because he was in love with Calypso. The part that confuses me...is why Calypso would have asked him to do it in the first place...maybe she did it to test and see if he love was true (he passed, until he was spurned by her)...by why would this have been delegated to her to choose who would fulfill that task. PotC makes comments or allusions to at the very least two sets of mythologies (five if you count three of the major religions in the middle eastern and western world then as well) they reference the Aztec Gods, and Calypso who is a member of Greek Mythology. In Greek Mythology though...Calypso was a sea nymph, and a minor one at that. One who seems to have a thing for sailors, it seems. She was not in charge of the dead, nor was she really connected to those who were--so why would she be able to choose who gained that task? They mix in these two different mythologies...but it seems they only take the parts they want, or should we all assume that the Greek mythology is there in it's entirety, it's just that there is more background stuff about why this works that we don't know.



jacqui	Sep 16 2007, 06:53 PM Post #4
Unregistered	I have never really thought about why Davy Jones had to ferry souls to the next world. But that with Calypso telling him sounds most likely
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Cuttlefish	Sep 22 2007, 03:43 PM Post #5
Swabbie Posts: 5 Group: Members Member #1,385 Joined: September 21, 2007	Hey, newbie here... I always had a theory that it was a deal he magically made when he "carve out 'im heart". Dalma said that the pain was too overwhelming for Davy. So how does one rid himself of feelings without completely dying? or rather, how does one rip out his heart and continue to 'live'? Magic, no? Perhaps he traded his soul for an eternity of numbness and 'freedom' from the small fleeting joys of life. Heh, I'm really not articulant today...



mttomb	Sep 23 2007, 08:33 AM Post #6
Scallywag Posts: 2,449 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: March 14, 2006	Cuttlefish Sep 22 2007, 08:43 AM Hey, newbie here... I always had a theory that it was a deal he magically made when he "carve out 'im heart". Dalma said that the pain was too overwhelming for Davy. So how does one rid himself of feelings without completely dying? or rather, how does one rip out his heart and continue to 'live'? Magic, no? Perhaps he traded his soul for an eternity of numbness and 'freedom' from the small fleeting joys of life. Heh, I'm really not articulant today... But he had already been ferrying souls for ten years when he ripped out his heart, and so there's still the question of why he was given that charge in the first place.



Cuttlefish	Sep 23 2007, 01:42 PM Post #7
Swabbie Posts: 5 Group: Members Member #1,385 Joined: September 21, 2007	mttomb Sep 23 2007, 08:33 AM But he had already been ferrying souls for ten years when he ripped out his heart, and so there's still the question of why he was given that charge in the first place. See, I need to pay more attention. I didn't know that. Then I'd say he probably did undertake the task as a ferryman to be with Calypso. However, I don't think she asked him to, as much as tricked him. She's a cunning woman, so toying with his emotions to keep him wrapped around her godly fingers seems more like her kind approach. It's such a good tale. A captain who's only love is the sea, finds a woman who is more or less an incarnation of exactly that. Unfortunately, the ocean is cruel and untameable, and as the captain realises this, he curses and thereby rids himself of emotions. ergo, Calypso could've someone tricked him into believing that becoming the ferryman would be good for him, or them. ...I've never been good at theories.



Jonathan	Sep 28 2007, 04:27 AM Post #8
Wretch Posts: 219 Group: Members Member #264 Joined: November 14, 2006	Quote: Then I'd say he probably did undertake the task as a ferryman to be with Calypso. However, I don't think she asked him to, as much as tricked him. She's a cunning woman, so toying with his emotions to keep him wrapped around her godly fingers seems more like her kind approach. It's such a good tale. A captain who's only love is the sea, finds a woman who is more or less an incarnation of exactly that. Unfortunately, the ocean is cruel and untameable, and as the captain realises this, he curses and thereby rids himself of emotions. ergo, Calypso could've someone tricked him into believing that becoming the ferryman would be good for him, or them. ...I've never been good at theories. If that's true, then how does the part about his heart fit in? I can't remember who first brought it up in the movies, but whoever stabbed Davy's heart essentially assumed control over his duties and ship. We saw that happen with Will. Which begs the question: What purpose did Davy's heart serve, other than the obvious purpose of being the one sure way to control him? One would think that an object of such power would have been better hidden and better guarded - or even in Calypso's possession. Either way, Davy kept his heart locked in a chest on an island, and the key to the chest hidden under his tentacle-beard, which suggests that he wanted to keep his job. Makes sense, really. I can grasp the idea of Davy agreeing to be the ferryman for souls - I keep thinking of Charon and the River Styx when I read that line, funnily enough - without too much issue. What I'm curious about is why, if he had not been deceived into taking up the position as caretaker of the dead, did he go to such trouble to conceal his heart? Was that part of the bargain made with Calypso? She could very well have told him that if he performed well for a certain amount of time, she would restore him in some way, and they could be together again. Perhaps I'm missing something. I don't remember enough of DMC/AWE to have a truly sound opinion.



redsky	May 5 2009, 06:14 PM Post #9
Swabbie Posts: 2 Group: Members Member #16,455 Joined: May 5, 2009	I agree that Calypso may have tricked him into doing the job of ferrying souls. He did mention something to the effect that she can't be trusted or something so. He said he kept his part of the bargain for the ten years, but she was not there for him on his one day on land. That's when he ripped out his heart. And I think the heart was very well hidden, I mean, he had the only key with him in his possession and the heart was buried on some island which it seemed they didn't have any map to. It was only because of that compass it was found easily and even then only because Elizabeth loved Will and wanted to save him.


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