Parley Info |
| Join the Crew! Rules & Guidelines Navigating Parley FAQ Introductions Latest News: Celebrating 3 Years! Joinable Groups |
"The ship is our's, gentlemen."Pirates of the Caribbean: the Curse of the Black Pearl |
Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Johnny Depp Joe Pancake What's the Last Movie You Saw? Movies You Want to See in 2009 The Person Below Me Game Ask a Pirate | |
Our Button: |
|||
| Welcome to Parley. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Barbossa; and all the things he knows... | |
|---|---|
| Topic Started: May 29 2007, 01:17 PM (392 Views) | |
| Atrice | May 29 2007, 01:17 PM Post #1 |
Swabbie
|
okay so I am obviously thinking a lot about AWE, constantly
 which was to be expected... I get so curious - what has Barbossa experienced in the past, or perhaps during his 10 years on the Black Pearl? Like Tia Dalma says, that if they want to bring Jack back from the haunted shores at World's End, they'll need a captain who knows those waters. How does Barbossa know them... his body was never there, Tia brought him back from the dead another way. It also reminds me of Barbossa saying to Jack in CotBP "you're off the edge of the map mate, here there be monsters"... and he knows that in order to find places that can't be found, you need to be lost... so generally, Barbossa seems to know a lot about waters and shores that nobody else seem to know much about... what do you think? Is it by experience from his 10 years as a cursed pirate on the BP? I don't think so, because then Pintel and Ragetti ought to know it too... or how does he know all that? He hasn't been to the Locker, Tia Dalma makes that clear... |
 |
|
| Monkey | May 29 2007, 02:54 PM Post #2 |
Smuggler
|
You bring up some good points. That would be an interesting story, with or without Jack, and could probably be the premise for another movie if they wanted to do it. |
|
|
|
| ElvenLight | May 29 2007, 04:31 PM Post #3 |
Smuggler
|
Barbossa does bring up some interesting questions in this movie. I would really like to know more about him too. He knows so much. It's mysterious. |
|
|
|
| Aurora Knight | May 30 2007, 01:09 AM Post #4 |
Swabbie
|
No where is this supported in the movie, but perhaps Barbossa learned all those things when we went wherever he went while he was dead? It seems to be a part of being in the Formerly Dead People Club.
|
|
|
|
| truelinor | May 30 2007, 02:25 AM Post #5 |
Smuggler
|
[size=3]But he said some of those things before he was ever killed. Like that line about being off the edge of the map, that was before he was killed. I think he knows a lot because not only did he go all over searching for the last coin, but since he was the Captain, he would know more than, say, Pintel or Ragetti about the waters and such. They just know what they are told, but he would know more. Afterall, he would be the one doing the telling. He would have had the advantage of maps and associations with other leaders, such as the other pirate lords, that a regular pirate wouldn't have.[/size] |
|
|
|
| Brookworm | May 30 2007, 02:43 AM Post #6 |
Wretch
|
Plus,he was undead, so he could travel bac and forth without as much trouble as those who were alive. Another thing I was thinking about today; both Barbossa and Jack are of the Brethren Court; this gives alot of insight to their background. What sticks out in my mind cheifly is that this may be one reason Barbossa hated being first mate to Jack. Or perhaps Barbossa was made a Pirate Lord while he was undead? I'm thinking alot of this speculation may be addressed in the Brethren Court thread, but I haven't bothered to check it just yet. I apologize if there is any needless repetition. 
|
|
|
|
| swedishfish67 | May 30 2007, 02:49 AM Post #7 |
Rogue
|
It's a good question, how Barbossa knows what he knows, and how much of the facts we know about him happened while he was alive vs. undead. I think, like Jack, a lot of this is up to our imaginations to determine. But how Barbs knows so much about the end of the world, and mysterious places... its obvious that there is a lot more than Barbs than just a regular everyday pirate captain. I can imagine Barbs being pissed he was first mate to Jack - Barbossa is older than Jack, and probably already had a larger reputation. Or not - because obviously his reputation crew when the Black Pearl (undead) was at large... "I've heard stories. She's been praying on ships for near 10 years. Never leaves any survivors." I'm sure his popularity amongst pirates grew when he was that big of a pirate threat. I honestly cant answer any of these questions, all I can do is agree I'd like answers myself  I guess we'll never know.
|
|
|
|
| Aurora Knight | May 30 2007, 03:26 AM Post #8 |
|
Swabbie
|
Well, "Here there be monsters" was a phrase commonly written on maps in places where the territory was unexplored, kind of like labeling a place "terra incognita," that is, "unknown land." So I think Barbossa was just being clever there, as much as it may now sound like foreshadowing. |
|
|
|
| truelinor | Jun 1 2007, 01:44 AM Post #9 |
|
Smuggler
|
[size=3]That may be, what you said about him being clever. I think that just as the actor Gregory Rush is clever in making himself on the left side of the movie frame, so his character would be able to turn any phraseology into sounding like it's something he knows for a fact and not just something he saw on a map. (Although it might have been just something he saw on a map. :lol:)[/size] |
|
|
|
| Aurora Knight | Jun 1 2007, 08:07 PM Post #10 |
|
Swabbie
|
It's just neat how in pirates, phrases like "Here there be monsters" or "There'll be the Devil to pay" have a ring of truth they don't have in our world - in PotC, superstitions are real, and the people know it. |
|
|
|
| ElvenLight | Jun 2 2007, 12:34 AM Post #11 |
|
Smuggler
|
I think that is really interesting. I knew that phrase was not one that Barbossa made up, because I had heard it before, but I was not aware of it's relationship to maps. Thanks for sharing, Aurora Knight. |
|
|
|
| « Previous Topic · Old Threads · Next Topic » |
2:42 PM Jul 30
