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| Davy Jones' Locket; Does the music remind anyone else of... | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 21 2006, 06:28 PM (3,618 Views) | |
| will_k_williams | Nov 21 2006, 06:28 PM Post #1 |
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Does the twinkly little music from Davy Jones' locket remind anyone else of the music from Harry Potter? I only really noticed it today and now I'm walking around with a John Williams score in my head (this is only OK if it's Indiana Jones or Star Wars). Will |
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| Explosive Calm | Nov 21 2006, 09:13 PM Post #2 |
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I think it's the way the music is, there's not a whole lot the music can sound like when it's done to sound like a musical box, maybe I need to listen to the soundtrack again as I started thinking it sounded a bit like Jack's theme when I tried to remember it, but I'm not remembering it very well so maybe that's why. |
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| Stormy Lass | Mar 31 2007, 03:11 AM Post #3 |
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I agree with Explosive Calm. The melody is definitely not the same, but the two sound similar simply because they're both done in the same twinkly, music box style. The two scores are also done by different composers (which I'm sure you guys already know, but I'm overly thorough about these things). I really love the "Davy Jones" track of the soundtrack, because it adds the locket's music itself on it, and then blasts into full-on organ music in the same melody. Awesome. |
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| JackMallory | May 1 2007, 12:48 AM Post #4 |
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I agree. I think that is my favorite part of the soundtrack. Such a cool, emotional contrast. Really tells a lot about DJ...either all anger or formerly all love. 
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| will_k_williams | May 24 2007, 10:16 AM Post #5 |
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I checked my post again and I'm pretty certain that 'does this remind anyone...' doesn't mean 'this is exactly the same music'. I never said that it wasn't largely to do with the style it was played in, that was kind of the point. I still think the music itself has similarities but again it wouldn't be so noticeable were it not for the glockenspiel. Will |
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| wolfarcher | May 26 2007, 04:18 AM Post #6 |
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Well, I don't think the music is all that similar. The most similar tracks are "Davy Jones" compared to the twinkly part of "Secrets of the Catle" from Prisoner of Azkaban. They both have that kind creepy, dark, sad feel to them; Davy Jones much more so, but both do. Davy Jones is also much better. |
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| swedishfish67 | May 29 2007, 02:06 AM Post #7 |
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Hmmm. *hums Davy Jones* *hums the Harry Potter theme* I guess I can see where you're getting at, but if you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have compared the two. Mostly because I adore Davy's music and I never really was a big fan of Harry Potter's. I love Davy's because it shows so much emotion is such a simplistic melody.. its got to be one of my favorite's of the soundtrack. And I agree, the transition from the music box to the full-out organ thing is fantastic. You can tell just by listening to the soundtrack how Davy is feeling... and even more so by watching it, by seeing his face. Its truly an amazing score. |
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| wolfarcher | May 29 2007, 03:19 AM Post #8 |
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One of the best renditions of the theme is undoubtedly in "At Wit's End". That version of it is amazing. In the film it plays near the beginning with the first appearance of the Dutchman. |
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| will_k_williams | May 31 2007, 01:50 AM Post #9 |
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Guys, I just meant the twinkly bit of the melody and only the first two bars of that. I agree the locket music is far superior and much more evocative but it struck me as sounding similar. I tend not to watch Harry Potter as I don't think much of them but I have a mother and a sister that love the films which is how I know that theme from the Philosopher's Stone. Will |
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| wolfarcher | May 31 2007, 09:14 PM Post #10 |
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That's too bad that you don't like Harry Potter much, and I just want to ask: do you think "Philosopher's Stone" or "Sorceror's Stone" sounds better? I think (not only because I am American) that "Sorceror's Stone" sounds much better. "Philosopher's Stone" is just  sounding. It doesn't sound as magical, because a philosopher is an existing non-maigcal guy, while actual magic using sorcerors don't exist.Anyway, I knew what you meant, Will. I didn't think that you meant the exact same music, but I still think its more just the same instrument than anything else. |
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| will_k_williams | Jun 29 2007, 05:51 PM Post #11 |
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I think Philosopher's Stone is far better. What the hell would a sorcerer's stone be? I think it's despicable that it's assumed that most Americans wouldn't understand the title. My sister put it most succinctly when she said (in a fake American accent): "What's a philosopher?............What's a stone?" That's obviously what the publishers think of you. Will |
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| wolfarcher | Jun 30 2007, 10:29 PM Post #12 |
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Well, anyone who doesn't know what a Philosopher is is just... go away. I still think that A. That title doesn't flow right and B. Doesn't sound half as magical and 'Harry Pottery' as Sorceror's Stone Thats the same problem I have with "Half-Blood Prince"; it sounds good, but just not as interesting and magical as the other titles. Same as "Deathly Hallows", come to think of it. Just my opinion. |
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| will_k_williams | Jul 1 2007, 12:07 AM Post #13 |
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I know what you mean about The Deathly Hallows and Half Blood Prince but Sorcerer's Stone? Who ever heard of a sorcerer's stone? The Philosopher's Stone is legendary, changing it just makes no sense. Will |
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| wolfarcher | Jul 2 2007, 03:46 PM Post #14 |
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Oh... wow, I feel kind of stupid, I didn't know that was the actual name for it. Woops. In any event, its still not a very good name for a Harry Potter book. Knowing that kind of makes me a bit confused-y, but Sorceror's Stone still flows better. |
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| will_k_williams | Jul 2 2007, 10:37 PM Post #15 |
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I still have to disagree with you. Philosopher's Stone flows well enough and it makes contextual sense even for people that have never read Harry Potter. It's descriptive in that you know the main character has something to do with an incredibly famous mythical and mystical object. Sorcerer's stone just sounds a little simplistic, the only thing it has going for it is alliteration. Will |
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